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Radio Interview
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Dale McCubbins
Program Director
WCVK
Bowling Green, KY
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Dale's
Career Capsule
I am where I am by the great I AM...
okay all puns aside, I'm here as a pure act of God! I
started my job career straight out of high school right
into Mc Happy burgers BEFORE McHappy McMeals (yes I'm
somewhat old!) Took a hard left turn into a brief stint
of acting in summer stock at a tourist attraction, then
a hard right into part time TV (NO PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE
OR SCHOOLING!) kept my college major as Perf. Arts
emphasis on classic guitar, took a detour into classic
radio at the college NPR affiliate, changed major to
undecided and stretched out the degree program to what
eventually became 20 YEARS IN COLLEGE...{ sidetrack:
they finally built me a degree in Religious Studies with
a minor in Broadcasting-- when people asked what would
I do with that I said... Televangelist!! > ;-> and I
finally graduated in Dec. 2000} took another left turn
into golden oldie AM radio, and eventually wound up at
Christian Family Radio @ 4 months after they signed on
and I said there's no way I could work THERE! Don't say
never-no way to God... He has a purpose AND a sense of
humor. By the way, at one point for about 6 months I was
working 4 jobs at once! Full time TV, parttime weeknights
at Christian Family Radio, Parttime Sat. nights at WBGN-AM
Golden Oldies, and parttime Sunday nights at WKYU-FM,
public radio... somewhere in there I was going to
college (one class per semester) dating and eventually
marrying my wife and then co-raising a daughter. So I
have about 30-40 years of broadcast experience all added
up... I've worked FILM newsgathering as well as 33 1/3s,
an occassional 78, a lot of 45s, and carts. In All of
this... God literally opened every door I went through.
and it all led me here, where I'm still having the most
fun and getting paid for it! ( and I thought I was
going to be a classical guitarist!)
1. Tell us about your market and
how it is unique?
We're the biggest small market in our area! We're
one hour north of Nashville TN, and roughly two hours
south of Louisville, KY on Interstate 65. We still
get artists who come in and are surprised that we're
so close to Nashville!
2. What is the most
fulfilling aspect to you personally about Christian
radio?
WOW what a
question! you got a few pages? seriously, I get to
minister to people and share some really GOOD music.
I get to make a difference in somebody's life! I get
to play in a production room right at my desk! I meet
a lot of people who say that I sound just as real as
I am on the radio... just shorter... (what does taller
sound like?)
3. Here is your chance to
testify on behalf of your station...How has God used WCVK?
Again, we get
to minister to people on the radio, play good music
for them and make a difference in their lives! We've
had people meet Christ as a direct result of something
we've said or played, we've even prevented a
suicide... we've been there in the late night with
music that makes a difference... and yeah I know that
sounds like a liner, BUT IT'S TRUE!!! and people come
to meet us and tell us this... that we've made a
difference in their lives... Talk about a humbling
mountain top... I know it's God, but it's just like
when I was a 4 year old little kid, Grandpa let me
ride the tractor in his lap, and I ran back to tell
Mom & Dad and Grandma that I helped Grandpa plow the
field!! yeah, I couldn't reach the pedals, I
couldn't turn the wheel, couldn't even hold the
tractor straight in the row...I just got to hold
onto the steering wheel while he did the all the
work...
4. What is the criteria that
determines if a song receives airplay on your station?
Here's the short, quick answers with
a caveat:
1. All submitted
music must be reviewed by our music committee.
2. Music lyrics must be
scripturally sound.
3. Artist's or group's lifestyle
should project a Christ-like example.
4. Music style must fit within our
Christian Adult Contemporary Format.
5. Music production must meet radio
industry standards.
6. Vocal presentation must also
meet radio industry standards.
Because slots
available for new music are limited, there are
occasionally some songs meeting the above criteria
that we are not able to play.
Now then, I'm
probably opening the worm can, but I will expound on
this just a bit to include the reasons why we don't
play some music... (The quote marks are for emphasis
and explanation.) We are a "Christian Station." We
play "contemporary Christian Music." Now, obviously,
the station itself hasn't been "saved" any more than
the music has. But we play the music that best fits
our description and our mission statement "to lift up
Christ, and encourage the family" ie: the
listeners who are Christian, and we prefer the music
to be scripturally sound, evangelistic,
encouraging, worshipful and good music overall.
Specifically speaking, we've recently had several new
artists submit songs that are not "blatantly
Christian"-- in that they deal with life issues,
relationships, etc, and the band assured us in emails
that they are each Christians. Here's one (I think
it's obvious anyway) reason why we might not play a
song. If you're a new artist, sending music to a
"Christian" station, why would you send something so
vague we can't tell what it's about or who it's
about? That's like me as a guitar player auditioning
for a 70's style rock band and playing Etude #12 from
Hector Villa-Lobos or even "Foggy Mountain Breakdown"
on a banjo... yes, it shows I have musical depth, and
a wide variety of style and can possibly appeal to a
wider audience; but there aren't that many 70's rock
songs that used a banjo... The band wants a screaming
electric guitar on lead or distorted power chords....
(okay lemme take a deep breath
here...you can, too)
To continue
the analogy of the worm can... let me take the lid off
and dump out the worms to show everyone... Even great
songs, performed by great artists who "fit" our format
don't always get played. Not every song makes it.
I don't want to pick on MWS specifically, but we
didn't add the song "Bridge over troubled Waters."
Looking at our quick list criteria 1,3, 5 & 6 were a
definite yes. But that particular song itself just
was too centrally located in our (and listeners) minds
as Simon & Garfunkle... plus it was too vague
(scripturally speaking... who's the speaker? God or
the singer-- as a friend? Christian Friend, Christian
Boyfriend? ), and just..... didn't "click." As a
crossover, maybe; but not for us. {Quick note I'm
not dissing MWS ... Healing Rain is fantastic!}
Do we play
crossover music? occasionally ... But what is
crossover music for? A "non-Christian" i.e. secular
radio station format. Again, If it's too vague why
bother? Many cheers and handclaps for artist who do
crossover ! If that is your calling then go for
it, but why should we play music that isn't "intended"
for our format? We are after all a radio station...
we have to follow a format. (The old ministry vs.
business argument again!) What if a "CCM" or even
Christian Punk Rock artist did a Southern Gospel
crossover? Even if they did an excellent job, the
music was quality, and the lyrics scripturally
correct... it just won't fit the format. And, I've
rambled long enough on this so let's let the worms
go.....
5. What kind of promotions
work best for your station?
Besides "prizes on the 20s" --
giveaways at :20 after, one of our neatest promotions
is Youth Group Spotlight where we schedule a Youth
Group to come in and DJ an hour of Christian Rock and
Rap on "the Stir with Whitney." They contact us, we
send them a few rules, suggestions, what time they
need to be here, and a playlist to choose from. They
get to pick their favorite songs from the list , they
send it back, Whitney has the music ready, they come
in and co-host (Whitney runs the board) sharing their
favorite songs, what's going on in the youth group, ie
they guest host DJ. We had to quit it for a while and
we constantly got requests for it ... we put it back
on the air and youth groups are calling back in!
6. How do you think Christian
Record labels can better serve Christian radio?
Hmmmm, off
the top of my head in a quick answer... Send us more
giveaway CDs and other promo items! Help the artists!
Give them a little more freedom to write good music
instead of trying to hit #1 every single time, and
don't dump them if they don't immediately produce the
next five #1 singles on their second album. Help them
grow musically, lyrically, and especially
spiritually! I know of one band (No Names, Please!)
that had some pretty good songs, and one of the band
members got "saved" during the tour! ....and then
they disbanded after the 2nd (?) album when the fad
went away.... Please, quit trying to jump on
bandwagons! Let artists be who they are! and don't try
to clone them! In my nearly 20 years of Christian
broadcasting, I've seen and heard several
artists/bands that were like another, and then either
they dumped out or were dropped. Artists and
especially wanna-be's ... work on your chops, and your
songwriting but most importantly your ministry.... and
I'll get off the soapbox.....
7. In your opinion what are
the biggest obstacles facing Christian radio today?
Again, I'm trying for quick answers,
but Obstacles or challenges... the biggest challenges
to radio in general are the Satellite Radio services,
the iPod and other similar MSDs (massive storage
devices...just like cassettes 30 years ago!) and multi
station ownerships. Plus, the high cost of going
digital, and we can not forget staying true to the
message--while staying relevant to the culture (in the
world -- not of it!)
8. What do you believe is the
primary role of the Christian radio air personality
today?
To connect in a real way with the
listener... same as always... if you do just artist,
song, album, time and temp, the listener will just go
to a satellite service or MSD. Be real, be you, be
personal and talk to/with A LISTENER not at a bunch
of listeners or the audience...
9. What (if any) other
Christian radio stations do you consider as innovators
today?
Well there are a whole lot of good
ones and some that are doing ok, so I can't really
comment cause I can't really hear very many in our
area. I know about them through this website and
trade magazines, but can't really comment.
10. Where do you see
Christian radio in 5 years?
Good question! Hopefully, reaching
MORE people. From what I understand, with digital
capabilities one station could conceivably do several
formats... For instance with a digital bandwidth of
90.7 FM, it could be subdivided... 90.70 = AC
contemporary Christian, 90.73 = Christian Rock, 90.75
= teaching programs, 90.77 = either Urban Gospel,
Hispanic CCM, Bosnian CCM etc... the population is
becoming more diverse... Christian Radio needs to keep
reaching out!
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